{"id":2841,"date":"2020-04-06T20:48:07","date_gmt":"2020-04-06T20:48:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ahmadiyya-islam.org\/ba\/?post_type=faqs&#038;p=2841"},"modified":"2020-04-09T16:55:43","modified_gmt":"2020-04-09T16:55:43","slug":"sta-je-sejtan-pricao-sa-bogom","status":"publish","type":"faqs","link":"https:\/\/www.ahmadiyya-islam.org\/ba\/pitanja\/sta-je-sejtan-pricao-sa-bogom\/","title":{"rendered":"\u0160ta je \u0161ejtan pri\u010dao sa Bogom?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Pitanje: <\/strong>Kakvo je zna\u010denje (\u0161ejtanovog govora) &#8216;Moj Gospodaru, pokloni mi odgodu do dana kad \u0107e oni biti ponovo o\u017eivljeni,&#8217;?<strong>[1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Odogovor: <\/strong>Naravno, ovaj dijalog ne treba da bude uzet bukvalno zato \u0161to ponekad \u010casni Kur'an govori o starim doga\u0111ajima u formi dijaloga no mi pouzdano znamo da nije bilo osobe s druge strane kome je Bog govorio. Tako da je dijalog izraz, forma koja ukazuje ne\u0161to drugo. Na primjer, o \u010dovjeku, \u010casni Kur'an ka\u017ee,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Mi smo ih u\u010dinili svjedocima protiv samih sebe pitaju\u0107i ih: Nisam li \u00a0Ja va\u0161 Gospodar? I oni su rekli: zaista, mi svjedo\u010dimo tome.<strong>[2]<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sva ljudska bi\u0107a su rekla, &#8216;Da, Ti si na\u0161 Gospodar&#8217;, kad nisu postojala ljudska bi\u0107a. Tako, kad god je izabran ovakav stil dijaloga kad je jedino Bog na jednoj strani a nema nikog drugog na drugoj, to govori o budu\u0107nosti pozivaju\u0107i se na pro\u0161lost i to isto tako zna\u010di da je ne\u0161to utisnuto u prirodu te vrste stvorenja.<\/p>\n<p>Kad ne\u0161to ulazi u plan (nacrt), onda nacrt uvijek do\u0111e prije. Tako da je ovo pitanje u formi nacrta. Vi ste in\u017eenjer, vi znate da, kad ne\u0161to planirate, napravite plan i nacrt i ako se postavi\u00a0 pitanje na tom stepenu, vi poti\u010dete pitanje i isto tako ga odgovarate. A ipak nema ni\u010dega, nema realizacije tog nacrta uop\u0161te u stvarnom svijetu. Ta\u010dno u tom stilu \u010casni Kur'an, kao najznanstvenija knjiga, podi\u017ee sporna pitanja i ka\u017ee da, dok \u010dovjek jo\u0161 nije bio ro\u0111en Mi smo mu govorili i rekli, &#8216;Nisam li Ja va\u0161 Gospodar&#8217; a on je rekao &#8216;Da, Ti si na\u0161 Gospodar&#8217;. Tako da je ovo nacrt \u010dovjeka.<\/p>\n<p>Sli\u010dno tome, tamo su isto tako mogle postojati stvari u nacrtu \u0161ejtana na koje se mo\u017eda pozivalo. Sada, ovaj odre\u0111eni ajet, &#8216;Moj Gospodaru, podari mi odgodu do dana kad \u0107e oni biti ponovo o\u017eivljeni&#8217; (15:36). Ovaj cijeli dijalog je mogao biti u formi nacrta zato \u0161to \u010dovjek jo\u0161 nije bio ro\u0111en. Bog je planirao da stvori Adema i prije toga je On imao dijalog sa melecima (an\u0111elima), i kad je stvorio Adema pitao je meleke da slu\u017ee i pokore se Ademu, i tamo \u0161ejtan ka\u017ee da on ne\u0107e i poziva se na svoje ro\u0111enje, &#8216;Ja sam bolji od njega. Ti si mene stvorio od vatre a njega si stvorio od blata&#8217;. (7:12) to jest on (\u010dovjek) je bio stvoren kasnije, mala stvar stvorena od blata, vatra je uzvi\u0161enija nad blatom, za\u0161to bi se ja njemu pokorio?<\/p>\n<p>Ja li\u010dno vjerujem da je ovo bilo ne\u0161to kao nacrt koji je bio primjenjiv za \u0161ejtanovu prirodu. Sada, Bog je ve\u0107 planirao da \u0161ejtan ostane do kraja vremena zato \u0161to, da On tako nije planirao, kako je mogao dati mogu\u0107nost izbora \u010dovjeku da slijedi jedan put ili drugi. Tako da to nije bilo slu\u010dajno kako ljudi mo\u017eda misle. Iz ovog razloga ja insistiram da ovaj dijalog mora biti razumljen u formi nacrta zato \u0161to, u suprotnom mi mo\u017eemo re\u0107i da Bog nije planirao da \u010dovjeka stavi na ku\u0161nju.<\/p>\n<p>On je planirao da \u010dovjeka stvori kao meleke (an\u0111ele), nego je \u0161ejtan do\u0161ao i omeo taj plan i zbog njegovog ometanja plana, do\u0161le su na vidjelo mnoge velike stvari uklju\u010duju\u0107i Bo\u017eije poslanike! Tako da je ovo ne\u0161to, neka uzvi\u0161enost, koju vi na kraju pripisujete \u0161ejtanu u zamjenu. Na suprot, ja to ne uzimam uop\u0161te kao slu\u010dajno.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pitanje: <\/strong>Kr\u0161\u0107anstvo \u0107e re\u0107i da je to bilo slu\u010dajno.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Odgovor: <\/strong>Ali mi ne\u0107emo. \u010casni Kur'an ne ka\u017ee tako. \u010casni Kur'an govori o tome kao o predodre\u0111enoj stvari tako da dijalog sam nije ukaz neke odluke napravljene od strane Boga u to vrijeme. Dijalog je ukaz ovome da, kako je \u010dovjek ro\u0111en, tako je njegov neprijatelj bio ro\u0111en i tako je bilo odre\u0111eno da, koliko \u010dovjek postoji ovaj neprijatelj \u0107e postojati s njim. Ovo je poruka koju ja razumijem iz ovoga.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>[1] \u010casni Kur'an 15:36<br \/>\n[2] \u010casni Kur'an 7:172<\/p>\n<p>Izvor: Ovdje slijedi nastavak odgovora na pitanje o \u0161ejtanu postavljenog na konferenciji pitanja i odgovora sa Hazret Mirza Tahir Ahmadom, koji je prvo bio prenesen na MTA televiziskom kanalu, 21. jula 1995. godine.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Naravno, ovaj dijalog ne treba da bude uzet bukvalno zato \u0161to ponekad \u010casni Kur'an govori o starim doga\u0111ajima u formi dijaloga no mi pouzdano znamo da nije bilo osobe s druge strane kome je Bog govorio. 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